Illusion or just Disillusioned?
I was drinking with a friend recently who was telling me how everything happens to be an illusion.I am still unsure if his understanding of this 'illusion' was alcohol induced. He went on about how we are all part of a big fire that is God and how we happen to be sparks that have fallen out from the big fire. He then went on to say that this mortal life is but a test to see if we qualify to return to the big fire and as such, anything that pertains to the 5 senses is all but an illusion. He actually said all this to say why he is not interested in girls anymore, or in relationships for that matter.
Since we were in the topic of all things spiritual, I casually mentioned a friend who was a Sai Baba devotee, thinking perhaps I could introduce a like minded individual to him. To that he went on an offensive about what he felt the whole Sai Baba concept was.
In a moment that defined coincidence, he informed me that he had just returned from the Sai Baba town. He was very very upset. Apparently in Sai Baba town, they have guards all over, who may very well be mistaken for soldiers if they carried arms. These men were very hostile and visitors to the Sai Baba Ashram were scoffed at and told to keep moving and not stand in any one place. He likened them to the Swiss Guard of the Vatican. He then had waited for over and hour for Sai Baba who arrived in a large car, and drove past through the crowd which consisted of a segregation between the women and men.Sai Baba, looked ' pale and lifeless' according to my friend who has seen Sai Baba face to face. The car then returns the way it came, and Sai Baba just looks on at the crowd, consisting of people from all over the world.At this point, the speakers blast with some incantations.Word has it that Sai Baba is paralysed waist down, because, he has taken all the disease and disabilities from the millions of afflicted he has touched.My friend was wondering which God is paralysed or which God had hostile guards who refuse to let you stand in any one place.Even in the prayer hall, they were not allowed to stand.
I checked up Sai Baba on the net: His creed
The primary cause of man's unhappiness is the mind and its multiple desires. The clutching of the human mind is the cause of much unhappiness. (Is Sai Baba buddist?)
Sai Baba teaches that man has forgotten the pathway to blessedness. It is to restore that pathway and indeed, turn it into a highway, that Sai Baba announced his mission in South India, in 1940.
Sai Baba says, if you take one step towards me, I will take ten steps, nay, a hundred steps toward you. Shed one tear, I shall wipe a hundred tears from your eye. I am closer to you that the eyelid is to the eye. Sai Baba offers the resolution of human misery. ( Sounds like the God of the bible, or the father of the prodigal son)
So anyway, I do not really know much about Sai Baba, except that they apparently have built a tomb for him and they have already come up with the time and place for his next incarnation.
Then my friend went on and on about how money minded the priests in the temples of India were and about how they were all just out to con them of their money. They even had one aiyar ,'priest' commanding them to 'offer' 200 rupees instead of the 100 they initially offered.He was also complaining about the countless guides who imposed their services upon them at every temple. The guide would come and say that he would do the tour for them and if they were happy with his services, they could give him whatever they felt like giving. With the employment of the guide, they bypassed the crowd in the temple and got some sort of a shortcut to do their prayers. He also brought them to a particular shop to buy garlands and offerings of sorts, though there were many other shops, also due to the commission he would get from that particular shopkeeper.The guide then hung around till he was remunerated for his services.Even their driver, he said attempted to cheat them of their money, claiming that he had a sister whose hospital bills he had to pay. This driver even tried persuading my friend's mother to invest in his automobile/transport business, claiming that she could be his senior partner if she bought him a vehicle.
So much for an Indian holiday, maybe it wasnt the alcohol that got him speaking of illusions, maybe, he is just disillusioned, of the temple business,of the Indian country.
I was drinking with a friend recently who was telling me how everything happens to be an illusion.I am still unsure if his understanding of this 'illusion' was alcohol induced. He went on about how we are all part of a big fire that is God and how we happen to be sparks that have fallen out from the big fire. He then went on to say that this mortal life is but a test to see if we qualify to return to the big fire and as such, anything that pertains to the 5 senses is all but an illusion. He actually said all this to say why he is not interested in girls anymore, or in relationships for that matter.
Since we were in the topic of all things spiritual, I casually mentioned a friend who was a Sai Baba devotee, thinking perhaps I could introduce a like minded individual to him. To that he went on an offensive about what he felt the whole Sai Baba concept was.
In a moment that defined coincidence, he informed me that he had just returned from the Sai Baba town. He was very very upset. Apparently in Sai Baba town, they have guards all over, who may very well be mistaken for soldiers if they carried arms. These men were very hostile and visitors to the Sai Baba Ashram were scoffed at and told to keep moving and not stand in any one place. He likened them to the Swiss Guard of the Vatican. He then had waited for over and hour for Sai Baba who arrived in a large car, and drove past through the crowd which consisted of a segregation between the women and men.Sai Baba, looked ' pale and lifeless' according to my friend who has seen Sai Baba face to face. The car then returns the way it came, and Sai Baba just looks on at the crowd, consisting of people from all over the world.At this point, the speakers blast with some incantations.Word has it that Sai Baba is paralysed waist down, because, he has taken all the disease and disabilities from the millions of afflicted he has touched.My friend was wondering which God is paralysed or which God had hostile guards who refuse to let you stand in any one place.Even in the prayer hall, they were not allowed to stand.
I checked up Sai Baba on the net: His creed
The primary cause of man's unhappiness is the mind and its multiple desires. The clutching of the human mind is the cause of much unhappiness. (Is Sai Baba buddist?)
Sai Baba teaches that man has forgotten the pathway to blessedness. It is to restore that pathway and indeed, turn it into a highway, that Sai Baba announced his mission in South India, in 1940.
Sai Baba says, if you take one step towards me, I will take ten steps, nay, a hundred steps toward you. Shed one tear, I shall wipe a hundred tears from your eye. I am closer to you that the eyelid is to the eye. Sai Baba offers the resolution of human misery. ( Sounds like the God of the bible, or the father of the prodigal son)
So anyway, I do not really know much about Sai Baba, except that they apparently have built a tomb for him and they have already come up with the time and place for his next incarnation.
Then my friend went on and on about how money minded the priests in the temples of India were and about how they were all just out to con them of their money. They even had one aiyar ,'priest' commanding them to 'offer' 200 rupees instead of the 100 they initially offered.He was also complaining about the countless guides who imposed their services upon them at every temple. The guide would come and say that he would do the tour for them and if they were happy with his services, they could give him whatever they felt like giving. With the employment of the guide, they bypassed the crowd in the temple and got some sort of a shortcut to do their prayers. He also brought them to a particular shop to buy garlands and offerings of sorts, though there were many other shops, also due to the commission he would get from that particular shopkeeper.The guide then hung around till he was remunerated for his services.Even their driver, he said attempted to cheat them of their money, claiming that he had a sister whose hospital bills he had to pay. This driver even tried persuading my friend's mother to invest in his automobile/transport business, claiming that she could be his senior partner if she bought him a vehicle.
So much for an Indian holiday, maybe it wasnt the alcohol that got him speaking of illusions, maybe, he is just disillusioned, of the temple business,of the Indian country.
posted by The Sch O Hard Knockx at 4:12 PM
1 Comments:
Believe it or not.. lol. I come from a family that follows Sai Babas teachings. From young i've actually gone to those religous classes and bhajans every week. I'm not so 'into' him anymore, lets just say i'm floating aimlessly when it comes to religion. But i think the fundemental difference abt this dude, is that the importance to do good. To others, to self. Rather then glorify the religion, or recite sutras or repent to any one person. Just to do good, be good. inherent goodness is more important then any religion is u ask me, its above religion.
i know this is random, lol..
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